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	[[Category:I]] [[Category:Teachings]] [[Category:Key Terms]]		[[Category:C]] [[Category:I]] [[Category:Teachings]] [[Category:Key Terms]]

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	<span class=TibUni18>གཟུགས་ཀྱི་རྒྱུ་ཡང་མི་སྣང་ངོ།།</span><br>		<span class=TibUni18>གཟུགས་ཀྱི་རྒྱུ་ཡང་མི་སྣང་ངོ།།</span><br>

	1. [[gzugs]] [[kyi]] [[rgyu]] [[ni]] [[ma gtogs par]]/<br>		1. [[rywiki:gzugs\|gzugs]] [[rywiki:kyi\|kyi]] [[rywiki:rgyu\|rgyu]] [[rywiki:ni\|ni]] [[rywiki:ma gtogs par\|ma gtogs par]]/<br>
	[[gzugs]] [[ni]] [[dmigs pa]]r [[mi 'gyur ro]]/<br>		[[rywiki:gzugs\|gzugs]] [[rywiki:ni\|ni]] [[rywiki:dmigs pa\|dmigs pa]]r [[rywiki:mi 'gyur ro\|mi 'gyur ro]]/<br>
	[[gzugs]] [[zhes bya ba]] [[ma gtogs par]]/<br>		[[rywiki:gzugs\|gzugs]] [[rywiki:zhes bya ba\|zhes bya ba]] [[rywiki:ma gtogs par\|ma gtogs par]]/<br>
	[[gzugs]] [[kyi]] [[rgyu]] [[yang]] [[mi snang]] [[ngo]]//<br>		[[rywiki:gzugs\|gzugs]] [[rywiki:kyi\|kyi]] [[rywiki:rgyu\|rgyu]] [[rywiki:yang\|yang]] [[rywiki:mi snang\|mi snang]] [[rywiki:ngo\|ngo]]//<br>

	1. Apart from the cause of form, form is not perceived. Apart from "form", the cause of form also does not appear.		1. Apart from the cause of form, form is not perceived. Apart from "form", the cause of form also does not appear.

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གཟུགས་ཀྱི་རྒྱུ་ནི་མ་གཏོགས་པར། 

གཟུགས་ནི་དམིགས་པར་མི་འགྱུར་རོ། 

གཟུགས་ཞེས་བྱ་བ་མ་གཏོགས་པར། 

གཟུགས་ཀྱི་རྒྱུ་ཡང་མི་སྣང་ངོ།། 

1. [[gzugs]] [[kyi]] [[rgyu]] [[ni]] [[ma gtogs par]]/ 
[[gzugs]] [[ni]] [[dmigs pa]]r [[mi 'gyur ro]]/ 
[[gzugs]] [[zhes bya ba]] [[ma gtogs par]]/ 
[[gzugs]] [[kyi]] [[rgyu]] [[yang]] [[mi snang]] [[ngo]]// 

1. Apart from the cause of form, form is not perceived. Apart from "form", the cause of form also does not appear.

['''Ts.''' 128 gives "the eye etc."as examples of "form" and "the four elements" as examples of the "causes of form."

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གཟུགས་ཀྱི་རྒྱུ་ནི་མ་གཏོགས་པར། 

གཟུགས་ན་གཟུགས་ནི་རྒྱུ་མེད་པར། 

ཐལ་བར་གྱུར་ཏེ་དོན་གང་ཡང། 

རྒྱུ་མེད་པ་ནི་གང་ནའང་མེད།། 

2. [[gzugs]] [[kyi]] [[rgyu]] [[ni]] [[ma gtogs par]]/ 
[[gzugs]] [[na]] [[gzugs]] [[ni]] [[rgyu med par]]/ 
[[thal bar]] [[gyur]] [[te]] [[don gang]] [[yang]]/ 
[[rgyu med pa]] [[ni]] [[gang na'ang med]]// 

2. If there were form apart from the cause of form, it would follow that form is without cause; there is no object at all that is without cause.

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གལ་ཏེ་གཟུགས་ནི་མ་གཏོགས་པར། 

གཟུགས་ཀྱི་རྒྱུ་ཞིག་ཡོད་ན་ནི། 

འབྲས་བུ་མེད་པའི་རྒྱུར་འགྱུར་ཏེ། 

འབྲས་བུ་མེད་པའི་རྒྱུ་མེད་དོ།། 

3. [[gal te]] [[gzugs]] [[ni]] [[ma gtogs par]]/ 
[[gzugs]] [[kyi]] [[rgyu]] [[zhig yod]] [[na]] [[ni]]/ 
[['bras bu med pa]]'i [[rgyur 'gyur]] [[te]]/ 
[['bras bu med pa]]'i [[rgyu med]] [[do]]// 

3. If a cause of form existed apart from form, it would exist as a cause without fruit; causes without fruit do not exist.

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གཟུགས་ཡོད་ན་ཡང་གཟུགས་ཀྱི་ནི། 

རྒྱུ་ཡང་འཐད་པར་མི་འགྱུར་ཉིད། 

གཟུགས་མེད་ན་ཡང་གཟུགས་ཀྱི་ནི། 

རྒྱུ་ཡང་འཐད་པར་མི་འགྱུར་ཉིད།། 

4. [[gzugs]] [[yod na]] [[yang]] [[gzugs]] [[kyi]] [[ni]]/ 
[[rgyu]] [[yang]] [['thad pa]]r [[mi 'gyur]] [[nyid]]/ 
[[gzugs med]] [[na yang]] [[gzugs]] [[kyi]] [[ni]]/ 
[[rgyu]] [[yang]] [['thad pa]]r [[mi 'gyur]] [[nyid]]// 

4. If form existed, a cause of form would be untenable; if form did not exist, a cause of form would be untenable.

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རྒྱུ་མེད་པ་ཡི་གཟུགས་དག་ནི། 

འཐད་པར་མི་རུང་རུང་མིན་པ་ཉིད། 

དེ་ཕྱིར་གཟུགས་ཀྱི་རྣམ་པར་རྟོག། 

འགའ་ཡང་རྣམ་པར་བརྟག་མི་བྱ།། 

5. [[rgyu med pa]] [[yi]] [[gzugs]] [[dag]] [[ni]]/ 
[['thad pa]]r [[mi rung]] [[rung]] [[min pa nyid]]/ 
[[de phyir]] [[gzugs kyi rnam pa]]r [[rtog]]/ 
[['ga' yang]] [[rnam par]] [[brtag]] [[mi bya]]// 

5. Forms which do not have a cause are not at all tenable. Therefore, do not conceive the concept of form at all*.

*['''Ts.''' 129-30 explains "[[rung]] [[min pa nyid]]" in line b as being an added emphasis. To "not conceive of the concept of form" he regards as unworthy for the yogin who beholds reality. He cites [[Buddhapalita]], who explains how it is "inappropriate," in contrast to "how appropriate it would be to reflect on non-abiding."]

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འབྲས་བུ་རྒྱུ་དང་འདྲ་བ་ཞེས། 

བྱ་བ་འཐད་པ་མ་ཡིན་ཏེ། 

འབྲས་བུ་རྒྱུ་དང་མི་འདྲ་ཞེས། 

བྱ་བ་འང་འཐད་པ་མ་ཡིན་ནོ།། 

6. [['bras bu]] [[rgyu]] [[dang 'dra ba]] [[zhes]]/ 
[[bya ba]] [['thad pa]] [[ma yin te]]/ 
[['bras bu]] [[rgyu]] [[dang]] [[mi 'dra]] [[zhes]]/ 
[[bya ba'ang]] [['thad pa]] [[ma yin no]]// 

6. It is untenable to say, "the fruit is like the cause." It is also untenable to say, "the fruit is unlike the cause."

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ཚོར་དང་འདུ་ཤེས་འདུ་བྱེད་དང། 

སེམས་དང་དངོས་པོ་ཐམས་ཅད་ཀྱང། 

རྣམ་པ་དག་ནི་ཐམས་ཅད་དུ། 

གཟུགས་ཉིད་ཀྱིས་ནི་རིམ་པ་མཚུངས།། 

7. [[tshor]] [[dang]] [['du shes]] [['du byed]] [[dang]]/ 
[[sems]] [[dang]] [[dngos po thams cad]] [[kyang]]/ 
[[rnam pa]] [[dag]] [[ni]] [[thams cad du]]/ 
[[gzugs nyid]] [[kyis]] [[ni]] [[rim pa]] [[mtshungs]]// 

7. Feeling and perception, impulses and mind and all things are comparable in every aspect, at every stage with form.

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སྟོང་པ་ཉིད་ཀྱིས་བརྩད་བྱས་ཚེ། 

གང་ཞིག་ལན་འདེབས་སྨྲ་བྱེད་པ། 

དེ་ཡི་ཐམས་ཅད་ལན་བཏབ་མིན། 

བསྒྲུབ་པར་བྱ་དང་མཚུངས་པར་འགྱུར།། 

8. [[stong pa nyid]] [[kyis]] [[brtsad]] [[byas]] [[tshe]]/ 
[[gang zhig]] [[lan 'debs]] [[smra byed pa]]/ 
[[de]] [[yi]] [[thams cad]] [[lan btab]] [[min]]/ 
[[bsgrub par bya]] [[dang mtshungs pa]]r [['gyur]]// 

8. When having argued by means of emptiness, everything of that one who objects is not an objection; it is similar to what is to be established .

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སྟོང་པ་ཉིད་ཀྱིས་བཤད་བྱས་ཚེ། 

གང་ཞིག་སྐྱོན་འདོགས་སྨྲ་བྱེད་པ། 

དེ་ཡི་ཐམས་ཅད་སྐྱོན་བཏགས་མིན། 

བསྒྲུབ་པར་བྱ་དང་མཚུངས་པར་འགྱུར།། 

9. [[stong pa nyid]] [[kyis]] [[bshad bya]]s [[tshe]]/ 
[[gang zhig]] [[skyon 'dogs]] [[smra byed]] [[pa]]/ 
[[de]] [[yi]] [[thams cad]] [[skyon]] [[btags]] [[min]]/ 
[[bsgrub pa]]r [[bya]] [[dang mtshungs pa]]r [['gyur]]// 

9. When having explained by means of [[emptiness]], everything of that one who finds fault is not a fault; it is similar to what is to be established.

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ཕུང་པོ་བརྟག་པ་ཞེས་བྱ་བ་སྟེ་རབ་ཏུ་བྱེད་པ་བཞི་པའོ།། 

[[phung po]] [[brtag pa]] [[zhes bya ba]] [[ste]] [[rab tu byed pa]] [[bzhi pa]]'o// 
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(ref; [[phung po]]; [[skandhas]]).

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